conchshell
07-11 01:55 AM
Viceroy Lord Wavell and his assistants laughed when M.K. Gandhi told them that one day they will be forced to leave India. What they did not understood that they were not politicians, they were bureaucrats. When the political power behind peaceful civil disobedience was unleashed, a nation took shape, and what Gandhi told Wavell became a reality.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about.
Something similar repeated in United States recently when thousands of legal immigrants were given a cold shoulder, despite of their merit based claim for an American Green Card. They decided to apply Gandhian way of peaceful protest by sending thousands of flower bouquets to USCIS, an American agency responsible for immigration and citizenship. Instead of offering an apology, USCIS chief decided to again ignore the immigrants and simply issued a statement that the flowers will be forwarded to the injured service members recuperating at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. Once again a bureaucrat miscalculated the power hidden behind a peaceful protest. Now the power behind flowers is becoming a media mainstream story. NY Times, Washington Post, Reuters, Yahoo News are a few to name. Bollywood, has recently issued a statement providing its full support to Immigration Voice, the non profit organization behind the flower campaign.
An American way of fighting injustice "A law suit" is on its way, the usual rallies and demonstrations are about to begin. However, in America, its first time after Martin Luther King Jr., that someone has tried to apply Gandhi's way to fight injustice. It is yet not clear that what would be the outcome of this campaign, but there are rumours that USCIS is already discussing internally to reverse the discriminatory decision which resulted in this flower campaign causing enough embarrassement to them.
Its amazing to witness that 60 years after Gandhi's demise, his ideology is still relevant. We are sure its gonna remain relevant till there are Lord Wavell's in this world. Wavell's can momentarily laugh thinking that unorganized immigrants are helpless, but when the peaceful protest will demonstrate its political power, they surely will realize what Gandhi and Gandhian ways are all about.
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romeshtrisal
09-10 08:31 PM
My papers were received at Nebraska Center by one... M. Schwitzer on 30th July. So far nothing... no receipts, no encashed checks.
Latest frontlog update shows they have reached 29th July. It is a farce. In my office, I know of at least 5 guys whose papers were received in Nebraska Center between 17th to 20th July. Their checks are not even encashed till today.
They just put in wrong and fake info just to please their bosses. This is a messy setup.
Perhaps it is time for us to wake up one day and head to our "real and true" homes! May be we will eat Dal Roti only but we would be proud of ourselves and not remain at the mercy of these insensitive folks at INS. I am sure most of them are guys like you and me, but the system sucks and deep inside our hearts we off-load our anger and frustation at them....
I am really pissed off.....
Latest frontlog update shows they have reached 29th July. It is a farce. In my office, I know of at least 5 guys whose papers were received in Nebraska Center between 17th to 20th July. Their checks are not even encashed till today.
They just put in wrong and fake info just to please their bosses. This is a messy setup.
Perhaps it is time for us to wake up one day and head to our "real and true" homes! May be we will eat Dal Roti only but we would be proud of ourselves and not remain at the mercy of these insensitive folks at INS. I am sure most of them are guys like you and me, but the system sucks and deep inside our hearts we off-load our anger and frustation at them....
I am really pissed off.....
mariusp
02-15 09:11 AM
I actually did call in mid Nov. and opened a SR. I then got a canned response about a month ago on how the case is within processing time and blah blah... I call again this morning and apparently their system was experiencing some kind of problem and the rep. wasn't able to open a new SR although she did apologize and thought that 5 months is an excessive amount of time to wait for biometrics. She then transferred me to an IO who based on the service center processing times posted online told me that they're currently processing May 07 and my receipt date of July 12 is not up yet.... What a bunch of BS!
Call them a lot of us did, when we got moved from one center (receipt notice) to another for processing. You should get a FP notice soon after you talked to them!
Call them a lot of us did, when we got moved from one center (receipt notice) to another for processing. You should get a FP notice soon after you talked to them!
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reddymjm
06-12 07:49 PM
Anybody who filed after 06/04/2007, got receipt#
I am just trying to see if NSC could go past the I-485 received on 06/01/2007. Many folks whose application was received the first day got receipt and receipt#. Is there anyone who applied later and got the receipt or receipt#.
I know atleast 5 friends whose applications reached NSC on 06/04/2007. No updates yet. I am very +ve they will soon as they are even working weekends....
I am just trying to see if NSC could go past the I-485 received on 06/01/2007. Many folks whose application was received the first day got receipt and receipt#. Is there anyone who applied later and got the receipt or receipt#.
I know atleast 5 friends whose applications reached NSC on 06/04/2007. No updates yet. I am very +ve they will soon as they are even working weekends....
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Rohan99
09-25 02:04 PM
my attorney recieved receipts today...filed on July 3rd at nebraska center.
Can you tell us what time it reached NSC on July 3rd. Looks like lot of people July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William are waiting for receipt. Are you one among them?
Can you tell us what time it reached NSC on July 3rd. Looks like lot of people July 3rd at 9:03 received by R.William are waiting for receipt. Are you one among them?
alisa
09-14 10:43 AM
What do you guys think about ROW EB3? Any chance for them folks or are they SOL as well?
I am not sure what SOL stands for.
But I can assure you that EB-3 ROW has very little hope. My estimate was that EB3-ROW's wait times were around 5-6 years.
But now, I have a feeling, that its going to be more like 10+ years. And 10+ years is a long time. Some sort of reform will happen in the next five or six years, and even that reform is not likely to get us greencards, since it may emphasize the family-based applicants.
I am not sure what SOL stands for.
But I can assure you that EB-3 ROW has very little hope. My estimate was that EB3-ROW's wait times were around 5-6 years.
But now, I have a feeling, that its going to be more like 10+ years. And 10+ years is a long time. Some sort of reform will happen in the next five or six years, and even that reform is not likely to get us greencards, since it may emphasize the family-based applicants.
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saimrathi
07-10 01:47 PM
not sure, what the flowers will accomplish.. time will tell.. but writing to Senators/Representative may help.. so please do write to the senator/representative in your area...
Hi Guys,
I send a letter to senator Gregg(NH) Last week about July Visa Bulletin reversal by DOS and how its going to affect all individuals who filed their 485 based on original Visa Bulletin published by DOS.
I Just got a call from Senator's office. He is sending a letter to DOS today or tomorrow asking about July Visa Bulletin reversal.
I will post DOS reply as soon as I hear back from senator's office.
Moral of the story is time for action when iron is hot.
Thanks!
Hi Guys,
I send a letter to senator Gregg(NH) Last week about July Visa Bulletin reversal by DOS and how its going to affect all individuals who filed their 485 based on original Visa Bulletin published by DOS.
I Just got a call from Senator's office. He is sending a letter to DOS today or tomorrow asking about July Visa Bulletin reversal.
I will post DOS reply as soon as I hear back from senator's office.
Moral of the story is time for action when iron is hot.
Thanks!
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logiclife
06-20 10:33 AM
No one has to do a vote on scrapping CIR. The absence of any activity towards appointing a conference committee and scheduling a conference committee to reconcile differences between House immigration reform bill(HR 4437) and Senate immigration reform bill (S 2611) would cause both bills to stay as-is in house and senate respectively without making any progress towards becoming a law.
No one has to formalize this. Not working on it is good enough to kill reform. I dont think anyone is going to come out and say "CIR is dead". However, if house and senate leadership indicate that "we need more time to read Senate's bill", or we need more time to understand and "Hold hearings" etc, its evident that they want to throw roadblocks and postpone it. Which is the same as pushing the bill to its grave.
No one has to formalize this. Not working on it is good enough to kill reform. I dont think anyone is going to come out and say "CIR is dead". However, if house and senate leadership indicate that "we need more time to read Senate's bill", or we need more time to understand and "Hold hearings" etc, its evident that they want to throw roadblocks and postpone it. Which is the same as pushing the bill to its grave.
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kalparikh
07-02 07:53 PM
So if I-485 was delivered before 10:00 AM...........
Does I-485 will be rejected / return back to sender / it will porcess?
please post your views...........
Does I-485 will be rejected / return back to sender / it will porcess?
please post your views...........
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conchshell
02-26 07:32 PM
And who is hurting because of this? Is it not you? And me? and our families? Whose fault is it that we refuse to actively participated in the effort that wants us to lead a stable life.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
You see, most people here work in IT. So we have binary logic. 0 & 1. There is no in between. So most people in this community of educated illiterates wants the world to be perfectly aligned before we lift a finger. Lets wait for few more years for GC before we contribute my hard earned $20 after bickering for 10 years, way to go.
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Sanju,
May be "educated illiterates" is a too strong word to describe our community. But no complaints, I know that sometime passion run high and we use strong words to convey our feelings. I know you mean all good for IV and the community.
I am contributing to IV with my time/money/efforts from a long time. I had several face to face interactions with people here in Colorado when I used to ask them why they shy away from fighting for what they deserve. Trust me, it would be unfair to say that people want someone else to fight on their behalf, but what people want is an organization that can represent them in a fair manner, and they feel that IV has a long way to go before that stage comes. I posted a summary of suggested reforms in IV as a organization, but unfortunately it did not spark that positive debate which can bring such reforms. You can read the thread in your leasure time:
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=20406&page=2
Transparency in its action is one such big thing. Lets just learn from an anti immigration forum called numbersusa.com. On their donation page (http://www.numbersusa.com/content/action/make-donation.html) they clearly mention that "NumbersUSA is recognized by Independent Charities of America as one of the top 3% of well-run charities. When you donate to NumbersUSA, you can be sure that the money is used responsibly." Can we here at IV make such bold statement and prepare ourselves to prove this point if a member ask such question?
I am no way opposing this campaign, I am supporting this and going to contribute too. But I guess its not too much to ask where these contribution will go, and what track able results they might bring.
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aquarianf
04-24 11:18 AM
Guys one more perspective:
1) Employers are not in the business of litigations. Their business is to run the company. If you or the employers are talking lawsuits then one of you have crossed a red line. It is just that. No sensible person goes to the court knowing he has done wrong. I doubt an employer wants lawsuits. Just like you feel threatened by lawsuits, your employer also feels threatened by lawsuits.
2) Surabhi - nothing personal, but your post reflect how the ideal world should be. However world is not your way always.
3) I agree with acquarian, that it is very stressful if employer threatens to sue you. Also attorneys will charge you $200/ per hr. If someone is saying that attorneys recover money later etc, I say chill. Most attorneys would not do that. They like hourly rates. Its very difficuilt to find an attorney for free unless your case is slam dunk.
Why I suggested he apologize? Be humble. I did not say admit your mistake. I just said aplogize for employers grievance. If two simple words "I apologize" can get your job done, why waste time in attorneys court, etc?
Based on my past experience, I am telling you, you never know when you will need a past employer. You will not need your past client, I have been at atleast 10 client sites, I never needed a past client for something, but I always had to go back to my employers for something. They are like ex GFs or ex spouses and leaving a job is like divorce.
Where you will need your employer? When USCIS sends you an RFE to prove employment experience with XXX company. There is nothing in the law that forces employers to give you an experience letter unless he fired you. Now try getting a court order in 90 days to meet your RFE deadline
When you get a job in fortune 500 company or better opportunity after your GC, your future employer will want to talk to all employers in ur history. Ready for that? Want to give the number now or want to let the job go?
Thats why I am saying DO NOT fight with ex employers. You will get hurt more than the employer. Your ex boss is not a bad guy, he knows you are leaving for better opportunity. Since he remembers what you have done for him, a few kind words will solve the matter.
I needed one such reference in my past, I called and apologized to my former boss because if I didnt, he would not cooperate and nor I had time for years worth of lawsuits. It took about a month, but the matter was settled in my favour.
I agree with kshitijnt that you need past employer more than you need client. In my case I had received 485 query to supply some my employment related docs ( whether that I am working with responser or working with someone else, letter from company showing my current position,sal. etc). Since I didn't change my employer, it was very easy and quick to get such documents from current employer. Imagine if I would have switched on EAD then I would have to chase my past employer for letters, paystubs etc and by the I would got them from past employer,I faced the risk of PD moving back.
1) Employers are not in the business of litigations. Their business is to run the company. If you or the employers are talking lawsuits then one of you have crossed a red line. It is just that. No sensible person goes to the court knowing he has done wrong. I doubt an employer wants lawsuits. Just like you feel threatened by lawsuits, your employer also feels threatened by lawsuits.
2) Surabhi - nothing personal, but your post reflect how the ideal world should be. However world is not your way always.
3) I agree with acquarian, that it is very stressful if employer threatens to sue you. Also attorneys will charge you $200/ per hr. If someone is saying that attorneys recover money later etc, I say chill. Most attorneys would not do that. They like hourly rates. Its very difficuilt to find an attorney for free unless your case is slam dunk.
Why I suggested he apologize? Be humble. I did not say admit your mistake. I just said aplogize for employers grievance. If two simple words "I apologize" can get your job done, why waste time in attorneys court, etc?
Based on my past experience, I am telling you, you never know when you will need a past employer. You will not need your past client, I have been at atleast 10 client sites, I never needed a past client for something, but I always had to go back to my employers for something. They are like ex GFs or ex spouses and leaving a job is like divorce.
Where you will need your employer? When USCIS sends you an RFE to prove employment experience with XXX company. There is nothing in the law that forces employers to give you an experience letter unless he fired you. Now try getting a court order in 90 days to meet your RFE deadline
When you get a job in fortune 500 company or better opportunity after your GC, your future employer will want to talk to all employers in ur history. Ready for that? Want to give the number now or want to let the job go?
Thats why I am saying DO NOT fight with ex employers. You will get hurt more than the employer. Your ex boss is not a bad guy, he knows you are leaving for better opportunity. Since he remembers what you have done for him, a few kind words will solve the matter.
I needed one such reference in my past, I called and apologized to my former boss because if I didnt, he would not cooperate and nor I had time for years worth of lawsuits. It took about a month, but the matter was settled in my favour.
I agree with kshitijnt that you need past employer more than you need client. In my case I had received 485 query to supply some my employment related docs ( whether that I am working with responser or working with someone else, letter from company showing my current position,sal. etc). Since I didn't change my employer, it was very easy and quick to get such documents from current employer. Imagine if I would have switched on EAD then I would have to chase my past employer for letters, paystubs etc and by the I would got them from past employer,I faced the risk of PD moving back.
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TheOmbudsman
10-26 11:08 AM
Your points are correct. The real question is how many more can the country take without going unsympathetic to immigration. That's their country and their decision you know.
You guys migh want to read this, if you haven't done so that already. Great article that helps you understand the shift in posture. I am afraid that things will get rougher for us. Fortunately we are in the best position possible, if we learn how to take advantage of this situation (assuming that we ever get the GC!).
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,439766,00.html
Immigration is a demographic imperative for America and the rest of the western world. Fact is the modern western cultures that empower women, encourage them to the workplace, make contraception/abortion freely available and make alternative lifestyles a choice, leads to a drop in fertility rates. Liberal leaning countries have amongst the lowest fertility rates, well below replacement levels.
The above makes it an imperative to import labour and yes sheer people to take care of the old and infirm, to keep the service sector rolling even if manufacturing etc is outsourced. The only question is what kind of immigration and how much of it. In short the answer is the USA is not a dumb country, it generally always acts in its self interest faced with these choices. I believe EB immigration will soon be liberalised. This would be a smart thing especially if coupled with a crackdown on illegal immigration.
US population is growing yes, but the elderly population is exploding. More are getting older (baby boomers) and once there there they are sticking aroung longer. I wish there was a measure of working age population only, the growth of that population is probably much less than that of the general population.
You guys migh want to read this, if you haven't done so that already. Great article that helps you understand the shift in posture. I am afraid that things will get rougher for us. Fortunately we are in the best position possible, if we learn how to take advantage of this situation (assuming that we ever get the GC!).
http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,439766,00.html
Immigration is a demographic imperative for America and the rest of the western world. Fact is the modern western cultures that empower women, encourage them to the workplace, make contraception/abortion freely available and make alternative lifestyles a choice, leads to a drop in fertility rates. Liberal leaning countries have amongst the lowest fertility rates, well below replacement levels.
The above makes it an imperative to import labour and yes sheer people to take care of the old and infirm, to keep the service sector rolling even if manufacturing etc is outsourced. The only question is what kind of immigration and how much of it. In short the answer is the USA is not a dumb country, it generally always acts in its self interest faced with these choices. I believe EB immigration will soon be liberalised. This would be a smart thing especially if coupled with a crackdown on illegal immigration.
US population is growing yes, but the elderly population is exploding. More are getting older (baby boomers) and once there there they are sticking aroung longer. I wish there was a measure of working age population only, the growth of that population is probably much less than that of the general population.
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desi3933
07-10 12:28 AM
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7. Since you're *not* required to inform USCIS on your job changes, why "file AC21" (and stir things), or advise people to do so?
Please show me any of my post where I have advised people to file for AC-21.
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7. Since you're *not* required to inform USCIS on your job changes, why "file AC21" (and stir things), or advise people to do so?
Please show me any of my post where I have advised people to file for AC-21.
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deba
08-25 09:42 PM
Received the physical card in mail today. Postage stamp is dated 22nd aug. My approval notice email was on 19th Aug from TSC.
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ski_dude12
08-26 03:13 PM
Not sure if I got your question...
You can file I-485 only when your dates are current. If you filed I-485 by itself (not concurrently with I-140) then your PD will not be on the I-485.
is this pattern (missing PD on I-485) for people who've PD current and not got greened?
You can file I-485 only when your dates are current. If you filed I-485 by itself (not concurrently with I-140) then your PD will not be on the I-485.
is this pattern (missing PD on I-485) for people who've PD current and not got greened?
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bayarea07
02-03 04:08 PM
Another thing i have found out here among many groups of indians here is that they are trying to do what others are doing in their group so if others are not returning back then there are also not probably returning back.
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h1techSlave
03-28 11:44 AM
That's a nice one. I had a laugh after a long time.
:D yes. I want to predict what I will do (or what i want to do) to USCIS, but i will be banned.;)
:D yes. I want to predict what I will do (or what i want to do) to USCIS, but i will be banned.;)
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mhtanim
02-03 09:59 PM
Count me too. I am from NSC to CSC, my case is still in CA only.I don't know what is happening. I have opned 2 SR's also. I am a july 2 nd filer.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
You are not the only one. My case is NSC-CSC-NSC and no FP yet.
mhathi
08-01 01:12 PM
We are in the same situation... This will be a good thread to track receipts for cases specifcally like ours. That way, we will know at least when the first batch of cases will be transferred to TSC.
gccovet
02-09 02:45 PM
I will mail my $50 Contribution Today.
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Thanks a lot rvurady14.
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Thanks a lot rvurady14.
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