vijjus
05-23 11:26 PM
(disclaimer: Like everyone else here, I am very dissapointed. Hence the negative mood)
I am wondering how we ended up here. We have been doing this campaign for so long, we have now hired a lobbying firm, and we've met, called, emailed and faxed so many senators etc. How come this bill completely ignored, and in fact in some senses, hurt us?
I have seen posts about lawmakers being stupid, out-of-touch etc but I think these posts are mostly facetious. I feel troubled by the fact that in spite of numerous efforts the lawmakers decided to ignore us - and if this was India I would have attributed this to the fact that in us they don't (yet) have a vote bank.
Please take this post in a positive way and as a stimulus for some soul searching - why did we end up in this situation?
I am wondering how we ended up here. We have been doing this campaign for so long, we have now hired a lobbying firm, and we've met, called, emailed and faxed so many senators etc. How come this bill completely ignored, and in fact in some senses, hurt us?
I have seen posts about lawmakers being stupid, out-of-touch etc but I think these posts are mostly facetious. I feel troubled by the fact that in spite of numerous efforts the lawmakers decided to ignore us - and if this was India I would have attributed this to the fact that in us they don't (yet) have a vote bank.
Please take this post in a positive way and as a stimulus for some soul searching - why did we end up in this situation?
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jk333
07-07 11:08 AM
Am in the bay area..
Just reading this thread, so not sure if I can attend today.
Will surely attend the rally with my wife on July14th.
Just a thought..Why not request all our GC/citizen friends to also attend?
I will persuade all my friends to attend.
If not anything, they can see it as a nice stroll in the downtown.
-JK
Just reading this thread, so not sure if I can attend today.
Will surely attend the rally with my wife on July14th.
Just a thought..Why not request all our GC/citizen friends to also attend?
I will persuade all my friends to attend.
If not anything, they can see it as a nice stroll in the downtown.
-JK
hsingh82
05-12 06:48 PM
:D it depends on whom you want to send to ?
When you send flowers EB2 gets retrogressed No will care if ever we have to send flowers as a united group... Are you going to address that as Eb2 Retrogressed campaign ?
Support IV dudes... :)
Even if you send flowers to USCIS, do mention that it is a protest. If nothing is mentioned they may think that citizens are happy with June Visa bulletin's development and forward those flowers to Ghasleit and dustbin to kick our ass :D
When you send flowers EB2 gets retrogressed No will care if ever we have to send flowers as a united group... Are you going to address that as Eb2 Retrogressed campaign ?
Support IV dudes... :)
Even if you send flowers to USCIS, do mention that it is a protest. If nothing is mentioned they may think that citizens are happy with June Visa bulletin's development and forward those flowers to Ghasleit and dustbin to kick our ass :D
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aquarianf
12-17 10:08 AM
Been in the US since 1998, have an EB-2 PD of 2001, have played by the rules all along. Still no GC... And, the dates are going back to 2000 from the new year.. I've lost hopes...
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
We also came here in early 99. One of our friend came 98 and renewed ead 3 times. One of my husband's colleague is here since 95. My husband's coworker s from his first/second employers who came during same time are close to get citizenship. If my husband wouldn't have switched his jobs for his carrier advancements and salary then we also would have applied for citizenship by now. But we don't regret our decision at all. We feel sad sometimes but depressed by not getting GC by now, instead we spend that energy in advancement of our skills and carrier. We have many people among our friend circle who are waiting for GC for many years but we decided to enjoy our life as much as we can and not to bring any GC related depression in our life. If you have such friends among you then it becomes very easy to get out of this depression.
I'm pretty close to getting clinical depression because of this game played by USCIS, Labor Dept, FBI and my own bad luck.
SKILL bill, OMNIBUS, etc. comes and goes. IV does seem to be doing things to lobby for the community, but let's face one reality. Like a news article said, no one in congress or senate wants to touch immigration even with a long pole until 2009.
The US has been very good to me (other than the GC part), more than my home country (India) which is why I'm still here.
Have invested too much of time in this country to just pack up and go. Just curious if any of you feel this way? How do you handle such depressing feelings?
We also came here in early 99. One of our friend came 98 and renewed ead 3 times. One of my husband's colleague is here since 95. My husband's coworker s from his first/second employers who came during same time are close to get citizenship. If my husband wouldn't have switched his jobs for his carrier advancements and salary then we also would have applied for citizenship by now. But we don't regret our decision at all. We feel sad sometimes but depressed by not getting GC by now, instead we spend that energy in advancement of our skills and carrier. We have many people among our friend circle who are waiting for GC for many years but we decided to enjoy our life as much as we can and not to bring any GC related depression in our life. If you have such friends among you then it becomes very easy to get out of this depression.
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priderock
05-11 04:09 PM
i was feeling a lil down too for the last cupl of days...responding to some of those posters/reading their comments on alipac really brought me down.
however i m feeling better now seeing the drama on immigration portal june visa bulletin thread...not that i am a drama monger.. but seeing drama between two professionals really spices things up.. why else are boxing and wwf interesting
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=247589
Could'nt resist reading whole thread....
Oh BTW , Did I tell you guys that I am CEO of a fortune 100 company , but spend time on these forums to kill some time. :D :D :D And I will delete all my posts if any one offends me :) :) :)
PS: You don't get the joke unless you have gone through that thread...
however i m feeling better now seeing the drama on immigration portal june visa bulletin thread...not that i am a drama monger.. but seeing drama between two professionals really spices things up.. why else are boxing and wwf interesting
http://boards.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?t=247589
Could'nt resist reading whole thread....
Oh BTW , Did I tell you guys that I am CEO of a fortune 100 company , but spend time on these forums to kill some time. :D :D :D And I will delete all my posts if any one offends me :) :) :)
PS: You don't get the joke unless you have gone through that thread...
number30
05-04 09:30 PM
Hello Sir,
While opinions are good and welcome. My requirement is to see the exact INA language.
I have read the INA Sec 203 multiple times, I could not find the link between ebquota and ebdependents. May be I am missing it. Can some one show the exact lines in INA ?
Think about this "5 year old derivative kid" is counted in ebquota. How did the kid qualify for ebquota ? The law clearly says "to qualified immigrants who are aliens described in any of the following subparagraphs" and then goes on to say the exact qualification.
Don't take me out of context. I do want the kid to get greencard, however I am against the kid being counted in ebquota.
I am yet to get the access to ( I am a recent donor ) donor thread that refers the exact INA language. Can some other donor post the exact INA language in this thread ?
Thanks
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
While opinions are good and welcome. My requirement is to see the exact INA language.
I have read the INA Sec 203 multiple times, I could not find the link between ebquota and ebdependents. May be I am missing it. Can some one show the exact lines in INA ?
Think about this "5 year old derivative kid" is counted in ebquota. How did the kid qualify for ebquota ? The law clearly says "to qualified immigrants who are aliens described in any of the following subparagraphs" and then goes on to say the exact qualification.
Don't take me out of context. I do want the kid to get greencard, however I am against the kid being counted in ebquota.
I am yet to get the access to ( I am a recent donor ) donor thread that refers the exact INA language. Can some other donor post the exact INA language in this thread ?
Thanks
I spoke with our attorney
He said
INA Sec 203 talks only about the eligibility to apply the I-485. But the visa number is derived from a relationship to Principal applicant of green card. This is true for all categories Including investor, asylum, Employment categories. Please note that It is Dept of State that is responsible for this allocation not USCIS.
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sankap
07-10 01:04 AM
[QUOTE=desi3933;486996]1. You can be self employed on c-corp as well. Please go to bank of your choice and you will get the answer. I do have business accounts and speaking from my own experience.
Here are the IRS guidelines on filing taxes as an Independent Contractor (Self-Employed) or Employee: Independent Contractor (Self-Employed) or Employee? (http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html)
2. Here is one RFE issued by USCIS. This should answer that AC-21 job must be permanent and match your labor/I-140
Since nowhere do USCIS/DOL explain as to what constitutes a "permanent" job, one can *assume* that being self-employed (or working for a staffing company on contract) is a "permanent" job, regardless of the project's duration, and mention that on EVL. IRS guidelines could help: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=154770,00.html
3. See point 2.
4. Contract extension does not mean job is permanent. And, yes, 6 year contract job is temporary in nature. Permanent job can not have end date. Period.
I didn't imply that "contract extension means job is permanent," as you inferred. Also, can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of a "permanent" job?
5. Dual intent visa means that it can be issued even if I-140 or I-130 has been filed on your behalf. Nothing more than that. GC job is independent of H-1B job.
Yes, GC is always for a future job--it's got nothing to do with your H1B job. And here's what I saw on dual-intent visas:
"Under the Dual Intent Doctrine, some nonimmigrants are allowed to enter and/or remain in the U.S. temporarily with a nonimmigrant visa even though they have expressed a long term intent to remain permanently. Presently, only E, H-1 and L category visa holders are allowed to remain nonimmigrants while simultaneously pursuing permanent resident status. Other nonimmigrant visa holders may be denied extensions or re-issuance of a nonimmigrant visa if they appear to have a dual intent of coming to the U.S. temporarily while pursuing permanent resident status."
6. Again, Permanent job is a job that is expected to last unknown term and is not defined for a period.
Can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of "permanent "job?
H-1B job is not permanent since they have end date specified by LCA and H-1B visa petition.
If *no* H1B job is "permanent," as you say, then how can that job be permanent after filing PERM or I-140? Second, following your argument, if you're on H-1B and changed employers using AC21, the new job wouldn't be considered "permanent," right? Third, if H-1B job is not "permanent," then which one is?
7. Here is a case for I-140 that was denied, since offered I-140 job was not permanent full-time job. Read for yourself
Link to case (http://www.uscis.gov/err/B6%20-%20Skilled%20Workers,%20Professionals,%20and%20Oth er%20Workers/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Jan022009_06B6203.pdf)
Please read the document fully. It says the petition was denied because "the petitioner has not established its ability to pay the
proffered wages to the beneficiaries of the other petitions or the proffered wage for the instant beneficiary." Nothing related to whether the job was "permanent," FT. Also, As I said, there's a difference between being on a "permanent" future job (for which I-140 was filed) and being on a "permanent" job using AC21 provision.
Here are the IRS guidelines on filing taxes as an Independent Contractor (Self-Employed) or Employee: Independent Contractor (Self-Employed) or Employee? (http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=99921,00.html)
2. Here is one RFE issued by USCIS. This should answer that AC-21 job must be permanent and match your labor/I-140
Since nowhere do USCIS/DOL explain as to what constitutes a "permanent" job, one can *assume* that being self-employed (or working for a staffing company on contract) is a "permanent" job, regardless of the project's duration, and mention that on EVL. IRS guidelines could help: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=154770,00.html
3. See point 2.
4. Contract extension does not mean job is permanent. And, yes, 6 year contract job is temporary in nature. Permanent job can not have end date. Period.
I didn't imply that "contract extension means job is permanent," as you inferred. Also, can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of a "permanent" job?
5. Dual intent visa means that it can be issued even if I-140 or I-130 has been filed on your behalf. Nothing more than that. GC job is independent of H-1B job.
Yes, GC is always for a future job--it's got nothing to do with your H1B job. And here's what I saw on dual-intent visas:
"Under the Dual Intent Doctrine, some nonimmigrants are allowed to enter and/or remain in the U.S. temporarily with a nonimmigrant visa even though they have expressed a long term intent to remain permanently. Presently, only E, H-1 and L category visa holders are allowed to remain nonimmigrants while simultaneously pursuing permanent resident status. Other nonimmigrant visa holders may be denied extensions or re-issuance of a nonimmigrant visa if they appear to have a dual intent of coming to the U.S. temporarily while pursuing permanent resident status."
6. Again, Permanent job is a job that is expected to last unknown term and is not defined for a period.
Can you point us to a USCIS/DOL resource to confirm that definition of "permanent "job?
H-1B job is not permanent since they have end date specified by LCA and H-1B visa petition.
If *no* H1B job is "permanent," as you say, then how can that job be permanent after filing PERM or I-140? Second, following your argument, if you're on H-1B and changed employers using AC21, the new job wouldn't be considered "permanent," right? Third, if H-1B job is not "permanent," then which one is?
7. Here is a case for I-140 that was denied, since offered I-140 job was not permanent full-time job. Read for yourself
Link to case (http://www.uscis.gov/err/B6%20-%20Skilled%20Workers,%20Professionals,%20and%20Oth er%20Workers/Decisions_Issued_in_2009/Jan022009_06B6203.pdf)
Please read the document fully. It says the petition was denied because "the petitioner has not established its ability to pay the
proffered wages to the beneficiaries of the other petitions or the proffered wage for the instant beneficiary." Nothing related to whether the job was "permanent," FT. Also, As I said, there's a difference between being on a "permanent" future job (for which I-140 was filed) and being on a "permanent" job using AC21 provision.
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GCBy3000
05-03 05:14 PM
Section 205. Retaining Workers Subject to Green Card Backlog.
* Allows foreign workers who have started the green card process, but who are subject to green card backlogs, to pay a $500.00 supplemental fee to file an application to adjust status. This change would enable foreign workers to remain in the U.S. until the green card becomes available.
If above is the case, then AC21 could be used by anyone who files for AOS.
* Allows foreign workers who have started the green card process, but who are subject to green card backlogs, to pay a $500.00 supplemental fee to file an application to adjust status. This change would enable foreign workers to remain in the U.S. until the green card becomes available.
If above is the case, then AC21 could be used by anyone who files for AOS.
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brb2
10-05 02:26 PM
If Democrats win CIR will be passed including relief for legals. But since USCIS will be deluged with (no surprise - no money to tackle the load) it will be an "unofficial retrogression" which Texas service center has always had. A lot of people with 01 and 02 priority dates were "current" for a long time, then it was incompetance and delays at TSC, later it was retrogression.
If republicans win (slim chance they will hold on to the majority in both house and senate assuming Foley scandal does not cause much more damage) then CIR is in the waste basket. Though Agjobs will come back because labor shortage is causing havoc on fruit farms and fruit is rotting on trees. Skill bill is guarenteed, but very little legalization for illegals.
Some people here seem to have a lot of hopes on the Democrats. But the proceedings of the CIR bill showed likes of senators from ND (which by no stretch of mind is affected by illegals!), CA (Diane), IL (Obama) how much they were against legal immigration. Other than Cornyn and to some extent Specter I did not see much sympathy for the legal immigrants. Even the Hispanics have realized Obama is against legalization and are now reconsidering support for him.
As to some ones request to remove posts critical of one or the other political party - as long as the discussion is civil, there is nothing wrong in analyzing the situation and predicting the future. If anything, those Democrats who are subtly anti-legal immigration will realize they are drawing new immigrants (who are traditionally democratic at least initially) in the arms of republicans.
If republicans win (slim chance they will hold on to the majority in both house and senate assuming Foley scandal does not cause much more damage) then CIR is in the waste basket. Though Agjobs will come back because labor shortage is causing havoc on fruit farms and fruit is rotting on trees. Skill bill is guarenteed, but very little legalization for illegals.
Some people here seem to have a lot of hopes on the Democrats. But the proceedings of the CIR bill showed likes of senators from ND (which by no stretch of mind is affected by illegals!), CA (Diane), IL (Obama) how much they were against legal immigration. Other than Cornyn and to some extent Specter I did not see much sympathy for the legal immigrants. Even the Hispanics have realized Obama is against legalization and are now reconsidering support for him.
As to some ones request to remove posts critical of one or the other political party - as long as the discussion is civil, there is nothing wrong in analyzing the situation and predicting the future. If anything, those Democrats who are subtly anti-legal immigration will realize they are drawing new immigrants (who are traditionally democratic at least initially) in the arms of republicans.
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acecupid
09-25 03:58 PM
Saw an interesting video on youtube the other day. The first thing that came to mind was the EB2-EB3 fights. If only we can fight together rather than each other ! ;)
YouTube - Every Indian must see this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4UltkRJsw)
YouTube - Every Indian must see this Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dc4UltkRJsw)
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Libra
08-26 01:42 PM
Senators and congressman in MN are not very helpful I guess, first they told me wait one month and if I dont hear anything then they will send a request, after one month I called them up to find out whether they can help, that guy in senator office told me to wait 6 more months.
It's not like my case is lost or in transit or not assigned to an officer, it is assigned to an officer on june 29th, officer at infopass said may be the officer who has my file have more old cases compare to others.
Hmmm, and congressman or senator?
Keep pursuing, you may find help from some direction.
It's not like my case is lost or in transit or not assigned to an officer, it is assigned to an officer on june 29th, officer at infopass said may be the officer who has my file have more old cases compare to others.
Hmmm, and congressman or senator?
Keep pursuing, you may find help from some direction.
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fundo14
06-07 12:36 AM
Hey dont give up ur Canadian PR. U have worked so hard for it. Just think about it. What if ur US GC goes for a toss (god forbid)? The idea was to use Canadian PR as a backup so do it. Also, I completed my landing in Canada recently. PM me if u need more info...
Hi,
How did you reenter US? Using H1 or AP?
I have already used AP once and I am hearing lot of stories about US Immigration creating lot of problem while enetering back in US using AP as they feel that we are doing some kind of fraud ny trying to maintain PR in Cananda & USA
Please shear your experience of Landing.
Hi,
How did you reenter US? Using H1 or AP?
I have already used AP once and I am hearing lot of stories about US Immigration creating lot of problem while enetering back in US using AP as they feel that we are doing some kind of fraud ny trying to maintain PR in Cananda & USA
Please shear your experience of Landing.
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tikka
05-23 06:03 PM
Sent IV press release to major newspapers/ news services using AILA website.
Thank you for the all the links!!
A little checklist to encourage other IV members to work on action items.
1) Funding Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4618
Just made paypal contribution for $100.
2) Media Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4290
Sent IV press release (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=66341) to major Newspapers/Magazines/Television Networks/News Services using AILA site http://capwiz.com/aila2/dbq/media/
3) Email to Senators
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
Sent to all senators in list by visiting their sites.
4) IV Fax
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_webfax&task=getContactDetails&Itemid=46
Sent.
Will work on (5) Phone Campaign (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4581) as soon as I get chance at work.
Thank you for the all the links!!
A little checklist to encourage other IV members to work on action items.
1) Funding Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4618
Just made paypal contribution for $100.
2) Media Drive
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4290
Sent IV press release (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?p=66341) to major Newspapers/Magazines/Television Networks/News Services using AILA site http://capwiz.com/aila2/dbq/media/
3) Email to Senators
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4619
Sent to all senators in list by visiting their sites.
4) IV Fax
http://immigrationvoice.org/index.php?option=com_iv_webfax&task=getContactDetails&Itemid=46
Sent.
Will work on (5) Phone Campaign (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4581) as soon as I get chance at work.
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vbkris77
05-01 03:41 PM
Is suing the only option? USCIS could be making unintended mistake. We want to get clarification in a smoother and faster process before the flood gates open in October.
There should be some other legal-process to get written clarifications/interpretation etc on the law (like some kind of AILA discussion with CIS).
But my friend, CIS has a very very thick skin... So the only language they understand is suit.
There should be some other legal-process to get written clarifications/interpretation etc on the law (like some kind of AILA discussion with CIS).
But my friend, CIS has a very very thick skin... So the only language they understand is suit.
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06-08 12:56 PM
looks like NSC is not working at all on receipts today.
How do you know this?
How do you know this?
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trueguy
03-10 12:00 PM
Lets not listen to negative people here and instead come up with a plan. Nothing will change unless we act upon it. I have seen these negative comments every time somebody come up with a plan for EB3-I. Unfortunately most of these negative comments are coming from EB2-I people.
Lets come up with action plan for EB3-I and we will send it upto Mr. President. I am sure they will listen to us someday. They are busy not deaf.
Thanks.
Lets come up with action plan for EB3-I and we will send it upto Mr. President. I am sure they will listen to us someday. They are busy not deaf.
Thanks.
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man-woman-and-gc
09-15 12:42 PM
My suggestion, please do not make the phone number and email ids available in public. Many (like me) may not like any/everyone knowing my phone number and email id.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
Done.
The columns exist but will be hidden.
we could just hide these two columns... just a thought.
Done.
The columns exist but will be hidden.
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gondalguru
08-18 06:35 PM
Stop fighting / dividing EB2 EB3 groups. EB3 filer should be able to port PD under EB2 category if he/she qualifies and obtains additional education / experience / qualification.
FIFO policy will help everybody (EB!, EB2, EB3)and keep things in order. I don't think there is anything wrong asking IV to involve in this matter as it is for everybody's benefit and not just EB2-I.
FIFO policy will help everybody (EB!, EB2, EB3)and keep things in order. I don't think there is anything wrong asking IV to involve in this matter as it is for everybody's benefit and not just EB2-I.
go2roomshare
04-20 01:52 PM
No reply so far ! No one here??
a2006
05-02 06:15 AM
Thanks a lot lost_in_migration for providing supporting docs.
I strongly believe none will be affected with this correct interpretation of EB dependents must not use ebquota.
What about EB applicants from non retrogressed countries/EB1? The primary gets GC in 6 months and the family will have to wait in FB quota?
I strongly believe none will be affected with this correct interpretation of EB dependents must not use ebquota.
What about EB applicants from non retrogressed countries/EB1? The primary gets GC in 6 months and the family will have to wait in FB quota?
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